RoseyORyan
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Hi EV,
In short, the walls and THIS THING have ears! Ask Arras!
Rosey 
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RoseyORyan
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Hi EV,
I see Google is the latest Search Engine to be threatened by the NSA/GCHQ unless it complies with their demand to have a 'backdoor' access to their data base.
Microsoft and others signed up with these agencies some time ago. A real "Solomon's Key", eh! What does it begeteth a man if he can read the whole world and his soul has become blind?
Interestingly, the on-going police investigation into the death of Diana Spencer has forced the NSA to disclose that they had been intercepting and monitoring her telephone conversations for some years prior to her death. The British police cannot access this thousand-page document, currently the subject of an investigation in the US. However, they also had access to her computor, the Forums she accessed, and her screen-names [gulp!]. Her is an interesting tiny snippet:
The Sunday Times, Dec. 1999.
"How did those intimate royal conversations come to be floating on the airwaves where any ham could pick them up? Its one of the most fascinating unsolved connundrums of the decade, a mystery, as we were saying the other week, without clues, suspects or motives. It may just be, we reflected that someone is trying to tell us something in code! That could explain the curious quatrain that arrived in my mail last week:
'Encrypt herein a clue
Via earwigs at GCHQ.
Place Santa's name up right
In grandpapes soma bright'.
Just a leg-pull? Very likely. Still we used to heve the best codebreakers in the world. We probably still do, though most now solve crossword puzzles. So lets crack this one just in case."
[Godfrey Smith's Column]
There is your answer EV. It appears that somebody inside one of these agencies has informed us of 'a truth'... but are we ready to listen?
Rosey
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EVDebs
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Rosey
Read James Bamford's Puzzle Palace or Body of Secrets, books about the NSA and you discover that the English speaking US/UK treaty countries have a loophole that seems to allow for sharing of intelligence despite if any single country's laws disallow for it as a privacy right issue/domestic spying illegally etc.; simply have a neighbor country do it and put the info 'over the transom' so to speak.
This appears to be the case, sadly, with Diana as you relate it to me.
Edited by EVDebs (01/25/06 07:47 AM)
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RoseyORyan
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Hi EV,
Yup, you may be right about the 'Puzzle Palace', a la KGB- type-apparatus!However, in the intervening years the EU Commission has instituted wide-ranging investigations regarding "ESCHELON" and the secret arrangements between the UK/USA to spy on its allies...politically,and economically. One rationale for breaking the US Military Intelligence embargo on Europe accessing precision information, re, Sat-Nav (so to speak)allowing the European Union that ONE metre edge on the US...which the Chinese are interested in buying into! The European Union knows about treachery, but it took some time to sink in. And so we return to the peculiar circumstances of Diana Spencer's untimely/timely death. America has blood on its hands and it people are waking up to that special ruthlessness by its 'hidden' leadership. (Perhaps our friend KT Mason would like to discuss this. But I doubt it.)
FREEDOM is the watch-word of this worldwide web, my friend. Look to those who seek to corrupt it for their own ideological and 'evil' reasons...there will be NO DEBATE WITH THE PEOPLE. Democrazy, shamocarzy!
Rosey
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EVDebs
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Rosey
I'm probably in trouble enough by writing what I've written so far but as for Freemasonry, Micah 4:3-5, with every man walking with 'his god' (as I've mentioned in another posting re Henry Wallace), the USofA still has people striving for the old values of truth and justice and tolerance under the rule of law.
Democracy is STILL worth fighting for, especially when you realize how easily it can be taken from you. The Huston Plan under Nixon...the Rex 84 Plan under Reagan...and now whatever they will call the 'suspension of the Constitution' under Bush (in order to lock up and detain dissenters during wartime...but wait, only Congress can declare war).
Everything unconstitutional will be declared 'constitutional', but only those who have read between the lines will be able to fight back. If this sounds cryptic, well mon frere, the Constitution has ways of defending itself.
The Declaration of Independence contains the phrase 'a decent respect for the opinions of mankind'. That obvious regard for what others see in our behavior ultimately results in the 'blowback' reactions that are becoming ever more frequent in US history.
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andymonk
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Alan Watt. http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/
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goliah
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When Dan Brown intentionally or otherwise decided to question the origins of the Roman Catholic Church and Christianity in general, he may have unintentionally opened a crack that may even now be breaking ever wider, almost at earthquake proportions. Here is the theory. Suppose that whatever it was that happened two thousand years ago failed and in its place was created the theological counterfeit that we call Christianity. His son having been disgraced on the Cross, that ultimate reality we call God stood back and allowed humanity to go its own way, knowing that two thousand years on, give or take a few years, mankind would find itself between the proverbial rock and a hard spot, with no way out within the existing intellecutal, moral, religious paradigm that we call 'civilization'.
Today with more and more people looking for answers that no political system on earth can provide, God once again sends a son to offer a way out, and to get the world's attention, reveals the first apodictic proof in human history for faith, exposing 'religious' tradition as the greatest of all human self deceptions. A corruption of aspiration and intellectual vanity without limit. And that is the beginning of what we call Judgement.
Sound far fetched. Google something called The Final Freedoms or check my web site. I'm a newbie and not allowed to post links. It may in fact be already happening?
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Theology only exists because nothing has been revealed.
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AEMoch
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I have to agree very much with that ststement. It is like what is one man's garbage is another man's treasure. Looking past the superfical dis-information and deeper toward the true theories and facts can be a challenge of a lifetime.
If you are those luck few that can see the truth or at least handle it... can wash you clean of the myths and lies that have been piling like a "Tower of S**T". Able to see the Emperor's clothes for what they really are, is some trip?
Comspiracy theory does has it's place in life to get out the truth of a message for "those in the know", and keep "the village idiots" away in their self half-brain'd notions of importance.
Yes... ain't it great to look outside of the box, and smell the flowers (even if they turn out to be plasic-sented)
Enjoy;
Al
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