TahoeT
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doomed said:
While I agree that these questions need answering I think its more important that the troops in Iraq (and Afghanistan, which seems to have been forgotten, over here at least) are kept alive. Thousands were killed during 9/11, How many have died since? and how many will continue die? The most advanced army in the history of mankind (apparently) seem to be powerless. I truly believe the lives of the many young men and women from all across the globe are more important past lies. I know that you are going to say that they are all connected but while time is spent seeking answers to the beginning question how many more will die?
So we should just stop asking questions? If you want the troops to be kept alive, then it is paramount that they 1) have enough troops to fight the battle; and 2) have the equipment necessary to do it. At this point, they have neither.
They're ill-equipt, ill-trained, and fighting a battle they cannot win by force, alone. Yet, our 'president' keeps saying we're fighting the terrorists of 9/11 and winning the war on terror.
Bull shit.
Why was bin Laden allowed to get away, when we had him cornered?
Why did we go into Iraq in the first place? Iraq had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11!!! THERE NEVER WERE "Weapons of Mass Destruction" (god, I hate that term!) IRAQ HAD NO TERRORISTS! 19 of the 21 hijackers were SAUDI! Why are we such good friends with Saudi Arabia, when the hijackers all came from there? The ONLY explinatiuon is O-I-L.
How many more lives are YOU willing to sacrifice for Chevron or Haliburton profits?
Demanding answers to the lies of the past, while fighting for the truth today, are not mutually exclusive. They MUST go hand-in-hand or we are destined to repeat the failures.
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musashi
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I guess you can't be a good conspiracy theorists if you're a God fearing, BBQ-crazed, F-150 owner somewhere in the Mid-West huh? Welp...I'll be back to talk when i've spent a good hour or two listening to Rush Limbaugh and convincing myself that voting Bush had in fact been a good idea after all.  Funny how some people get worked up by the way...
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EVDebs
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Find out more about the wargames going on during 9-11: Vigilant Warrior, Vigilant Guardian, Northern Guardian, Northern Vigilance, etc.
see http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html#airforce
Was it all "LIHOP" let it happen on purpose, or maybe "MIHOP" make it happen on purpose ? Or serendipity ? And how did a Saudi software company like Ptech get FAA and intell computer access
http://www.madcowprod.com/index45.html
thus taking 'outsourcing' to a higher level than mere call centers in India ...
The biggest question is why the media doesn't report more on this; but again, Operation Mockingbird is still supposed to be around, including CNN and PsyOps-type possibilities
CNN and PsyOps
www.counterpunch.org/cnnpsyops.html
Edited by EVDebs (10/16/05 08:59 AM)
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Shadowglass
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Reged: 07/08/05
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Loc: Canada
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The most important thing to realize in the Pentagon attack (yeah, right) is that if a jet of that size actually hit the building...where was the rest of the plane. I don't always believe conspiracy sites but check this out, the photo alone says volumes:
www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=75&contentid=2141
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EVDebs
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Pretext for war is something that James Bamford has written about
http://www.metacritic.com/books/authors/bamfordjames/pretextforwar
but it can also be argued that LetItHappenOnPurpose or MakeItHappenOnPurpose LIHOP/MIHOP were further options as with the Operation Northwoods scenario leaked out during research into the JFK assassination.
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doodoobutter
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Reged: 02/20/06
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There was actually an article about this exact topic in the Village Voice (a sort of biweekly free newspaper over here in NY) this week. I picked it up but haven't read all of it yet. It talked about all the conspiracies and all the groups supporting the "9/11 Truth" movement. One alternate conspiracy was that the planes had missiles strapped to the bottom of them that were fired right before the planes crashed (explaining the bright flash of light split-seconds before they collided with the buildings) I'll get back to you guys as soon as I read the whole article.
Here's more info on the Voice:
Wiki site on the Village Voice
Village Voice website
And here's the actual article, as was printed in the actual newspaper, online:
Village Voice - 9-11: What Really Happened?
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So dark the con of man...so dark indeed.
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EVDebs
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I'll settle for the insurance companies now interested in the takedown of WTC-7, which wasn't hit by an airplane or 'falling debris' from WTC-1 or 2, but just seemed to fall into it's own footprint all on its own. Interesting, huh ?
WTC-7 mystery of the 'pull'
""Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex, admitted on a September 2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds' that he and the NYFD decided to 'pull' WTC 7 on the day of the attack. The word 'pull' is industry jargon for taking a building down with explosives""
http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html
I've heard it takes around 2 weeks to set up a building for demolishion into its footprint.
But, alas, this is yet another of the 9-11 anomalies.
Edited by EVDebs (02/24/06 04:33 AM)
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doodoobutter
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I heard about this too (it was in the Voice article). They said the developers said "Pull it" before the twin towers fell, something rather. It's a shame what kind of country we live in where our own government will pull this kinda crap on us. [Sarcastically]All worked well for our president, though. Bush and his minions needed a catastrophe like 9/11 to make their asses look good... 
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EVDebs
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doodoobutter
The Pentagon attack could only have been accomplished with the wargames being already known about (see the
http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html#airforce
weblink showing in detail ) and the Ptech 'insiders' who could give such information to the Saudi/UAE hijackers
Ptech article
http://www.madcowprod.com/index45.html
showing their FAA and NAS computer access, along with other clients tied to intelligence. I understand that Ptech has now changed its name to GoAgile, for what it's worth.
Dollars to Terror
http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17730
""The FBI finally raided Ptech on December 6, 2002. However, no arrests were made and the company continues to operate, and according to Ptech’s CEO, Oussama Ziade, in May 2004, "Ptech still has government agencies as customers, including the White House."...Recently, Ptech changed both the name of the company and of its software to GoAgile.""
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RoseyORyan
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Loc: Scotland
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Hi all,
Unfortunely, we live in an age of mass 'disinformation' and 'misinformation', one must distinguish between similar- sounding terms, the first is a tatical and strategical endeavour; whilst the latter is primarily a resultant of the first but propogated by the ignorant...we are all guilty of unwitting collaboration to some degree.
WARNING. The www is a double-edged sword.Take care!
Rosey
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