AAnnAArchy
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Yeah, if suicide bombers kept coming into your country, you'd go after the source too. Well, unless you were the US, then you'd go after the source with the most oil or least sympathetic leader with the most oil.
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Sephia
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Yeah, if suicide bombers kept coming into your country, you'd go after the source too. Well, unless you were the US, then you'd go after the source with the most oil or least sympathetic leader with the most oil.
Well said. I am not going to gento the toubles in Israel and who is right or wrong...that would take all year.
Religion is the impetus for many bombings, but I wonder if the underlying cause really is belief that that is what the higher power wants. Or, is religion just a justification?
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Gawhd
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I think the middle east uses religion as an excuss for terrorism. I mean, don't they have a war against the world built into their religion (I know not all the middle east is muslum). I also think Palastine is very justified in being super pissed about Israel. How would we feel if the world decided mexico should get texas without giving us anything at all?
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Sephia
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I'd feel they were rtight, since we basically got Texas by overrrunning and conquering it...
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AAnnAArchy
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I'd feel they were right, since we basically got Texas by overrrunning and conquering it...
Yeah.  Oh, and there's a lot more to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict than just what we know from modern history. This stuff goes waaaaay back. And I agree, Sephia, we won't go there. Too divisive for here and mostly unrelated. Its only relation was suicide bombers and we can use the rest of the world as examples of them.
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Gawhd
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Thats how most of the world does it What do you guys think about uniting north america under one flag. UNA (United North America). I think it would have some potental
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Sephia
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lol! How about the whole world while we're at it? USE, Enited States of Earth.
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Packer_Fan
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Here's my thought - religion started out as science. It tried to explain the unknown, and that was a huge undertaking since not much was known. Then, as people observed more and more, some things started to become predictable. Astronomy, biology, math, etc. And in my opinion as the theories turned into reality, "science" started callenging religious truths. They began to grow apart.
I appreciate free thought. Religion is based on faith, belief in things that can't necessarily be proved or reproduced. Science can be proven, in most cases.
I think the fact that they challenge one another makes for a pretty interesting world.
It's a shame, however, that violence seems to be one of the outcomes when science disagrees with religion.
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Skate
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"Science without religion is boring, religion without science is blind" - It's a quote by Einstin.
I don't beleive that the world could keep control of it self without religion, as sad is that is. Reason being is that most religions, while showing where human kind came from, also give people good morals and ways to live.
I myself am agnostic, so I don't beleive in god, but I also don't beleive that there is no god. I choose not to belive because I cannot prove.
But the fact remains that had we not had religion things would *most likely* be chaos. The bible tells people not to sin. Most people have a hard time following all of it, but there are many things in there that the majority of the population follows. And in other religions, it's the same thing.
I dislike the fact that we have books that, frankly, no one really knows who wrote, telling us what created us, where we came from, or what will happen when we die. All religions are good for is order and peace.
That leads me to my next point: You all were saying why don't fanatic gardeners bomb things, but religious fanatics do? Religions are telling us where we came from, what happens when we die, ect... so people are going to want to belive that, and will defend it. Religion is based off theory, beleif, and faith. Gardening and playing video games is based off facts, so no one can really argue, except what is prettier, or more fun. Religious fanatics bomb things, create war, ect.. because they want people to belive what they belive and don't like it when people threaten their beliefs. Game and gardening fanatics don't bomb things because there is no reason.
I don't think the majority of the population on this world could exist if we had no religion. To many people would be killed because people would have no reaon not to. Old laws are based off religion as well as common sense. People would kill if they have no fear of death becuase, without religion telling them that they will go to Hell, why should they be afraid?
The population COULD live without science. It would be hard and boring, but possible. At least now, anyways. Had there been no science in the beggining, we would still be in the stone age.
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AAnnAArchy
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Skate <<I don't think the majority of the population on this world could exist if we had no religion. To many people would be killed because people would have no reaon not to. Old laws are based off religion as well as common sense. People would kill if they have no fear of death becuase, without religion telling them that they will go to Hell, why should they be afraid?>>
Uh, people kill because of religion. Murderers aren't afraid of hell, they're maybe afraid of being caught or of being someone's "boy" in prison, but they're not afraid of hell. You'll probably find most gangbangers in church every Sunday with their moms...and out on the street dealing drugs and committing crimes the rest of the week.
Religion causes violence and if people can't hold themselves back from killing just because it's wrong, then good riddance to them.
Maybe instead of religion, if people just abided by Dear Abby's Laws of Decent Behavior (okay, I made that title up, but she probably has booklet about it anyway), we'd have a happier world. No one would have to believe that their religion was better than someone else's.
I want fact, not faith. I want people to be decent human beings because it's the right thing to do, not because they're afraid of some afterlife punishment. What a ridiculous way to live your life. "Gee, I'm not going to kill my sister because I might burn in hell. I guess I'll go play pinball instead."
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