TahoeT
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Possibly one of the best books I have ever read! The way it described the times was excellent. It painted vivid pictures of the squalor and just how foul life was back then. Not to mention the power of The Church, the greed and hypocracy. Great read!
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Mudpuppy
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I'm plodding through it. It's a decidedly more challenging read than Dan Brown, so my brain is still adjusting to the change. It will probably be a while before I can come back and comment, but I will say this -- Eco loves details.
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Victor
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I'm plodding through it. It's a decidedly more challenging read than Dan Brown, so my brain is still adjusting to the change. It will probably be a while before I can come back and comment, but I will say this -- Eco loves details.
I had a VERY difficult time with the Name of the Rose, but it's worth it. Rent the movie when you're finished. Sean Connery....need I say more?
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TahoeT
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I'm plodding through it. It's a decidedly more challenging read than Dan Brown, so my brain is still adjusting to the change. It will probably be a while before I can come back and comment, but I will say this -- Eco loves details.
I read it quite a few years ago and agree that it's a tough read - but the details are what made it for me...
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Sephia
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It is definitely tough..I just finished. William and Adso remind me of Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson. it was good, though I wish I understood Latin.
What does "stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus" mean?
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TahoeT
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What does "stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus" mean?
My latin is more rusty than the rest of me (which is pretty rusty!) but I think it has something to do with the original name of the rose and that the name has been laid bare of what it represents.
(This is why translators make big bucks... words do not translate easily - there are dozens of meanings for everything, and one needs to try and create the context of each one...)
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Zete
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It is correct.
The exact translation is:
"The essence of the rose is in its name, (but) we've got only the bare name"
i.e. the name of the rose includes in its meaning also the scent, but we can't smell it by the name only.
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Sephia
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O_o. cool. i was wondering. i read the book and every few minutes, i thought , "I wish I knew Latin". Oh,well. Thanks!
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Honesty
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It's a decidedly more challenging read than Dan Brown, so my brain is still adjusting to the change.
What you have to bear in mind is that Eco is a world reknowned intellectual and Dan Brown wishes he was and Joe Reader thinks he is.
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I read it quite a few years ago and agree that it's a tough read - but the details are what made it for me...
Umbert Eco admitted that he made the first one hundred pages deliberately difficult so that the reader had to pay penance. After that stage the novel does become easier.
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William and Adso remind me of Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson. it was good, though I wish I understood Latin.
William and Adso are based upon Holmes and Watson. William of Baskerville is also a play on William of Ockham, an English Franciscan who lived during the novel's time period. Adso's name is a pun on Simplico from Galileo Galilei's Dialogue. The pun is: ad Simplico (to Simplico) and the name Adso comes from: ad Simplico.
Regarding 'understanding Latin' the best part of Eco's use of this language is that he uses well known quotes and phrases. You can usually find translations just by typing the phrase into Google. Alternatively, there is The Key to The Name of the Rose which I believe you can still purchase on Amazon.
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mike713
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I just started this book and other than the latin it's pretty good. 
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