twoblink
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As a cryptographer, I am wondering if I should bother to finish the book..
Someone should have bought him a copy of Bruce's book... The amount of cryptographic errors in this book is mind-numbing..
64bit will have 64 characters?? Yeah, if they are 1's and 0's!! Obviously he has no clue how remailers work..
Angels and Demon's was full of errors as well, but I guess this one just hits a bit closer to home as this is my profession..
Disgusting the lack of attention to detail...
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Lightstar
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Reged: 03/28/05
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Dude,
I think you should finish it, it's an awesome book. I'm a programmer/hacker and I also found it amazing how many errors there were in the book. I mean, I know he does his research, but c'mon, 64 bit doesnt mean it will have 64 ASCII characters!
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8549176320abc
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You should finish it because it is one of his best, if you ignore the small errors.
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LewisPerdue
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Hey twoblink: as a cryptographer, is it possible for you to crack the meaning of Ahamedd Saaddoodeen?
See <a href="http://davincicrock.blogspot.com/2005/05/rewards-offered-for-solving.html"> this post</a> at <a href="http://davincicrock.blogspot.com">The Da Vinci Crock</a> for details.
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Jungberg
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Heya. I've recently read Digital Fortress, and I were wondering if it really is possible to create a computer such as TRNSLTR able to crack every code using 'brute force'? I am under the impression that it would require enormous processing powers. Would it be possible, and is it feasible that it has already happened? Figured maybe one of you cryptographers (or hackers) could help me find out?
-Jung
Edited by Jungberg (05/24/05 02:56 AM)
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rheyn
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I am not suggesting you do this, but it is possible to try and crack the e-mail by logging into hotmail. After so many failed attempts, it will allow you to try and change the password. It will ask some sort of "secret question" which if this person is really on the DB kick is probably something you might be able to guess or research. Something like what high school did you attend or mother's maiden name or pet's name/spouse's name, favorite color. If this person is Blythe Brown or someone who has done a lot of research, this answer should be out there for someone to find.
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LewisPerdue
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Thanks Rheyn ... I've got a fair idea who the person is already ... what intrigues me is what the decrypted meaning is of the "name" Ahamedd Saaddoodeen.
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danaholic
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I don't understand this.
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AAnnAArchy
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What don't you understand? Lewis Perdue thinks it's Dan Brown's wife, but he'd like to know if the name is encrypted.
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abbsta
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Well as a 14 year old girl i didn't notice at all and i didnt linke this book as much as Angels and Demons and The Da Vinci Code or even Deception point. A) Because it has maths in it and i hate maths B) its allways centered around america's government and im not american IM A KIWI WAHOO GO NEW ZEALAND...anyway C) it was to predictible 
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8549176320abc
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TRNSLTR whould work for some incription methords including a lot of public encription cyphers but for anyone who has any real desire to keep the info secret it is not difcult to write a code in such a way as to ruin the brute forse attack. one way is to use a one time pad cypher such as that between the wwhite house and the cremlin but this is not practical between Mrs Migins in the pie shop and her boyfriend in California as it needs you to transport 100% sucurly a string of random data to two parties. An alternative is to ues two fiarly simple substitution cyphers one on top of the other, this makes the incription too great for even TRNSLTR to solve quickly.
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tHEeNLIGHTENED
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Reged: 07/01/05
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some nitpicks
1)how would TRNSLTR be able to crack every code it encountered? for a brute-force method to work the computer must already know the algorithms for the code it is on and then finding a new algorithm for the next code
2)there is no such thing as the "Bergofsky's Principle", search it on google the only results are that from the book
still a good book though even with the similar patterning between each novel
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8549176320abc
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I have demonstrated on other pages that the bergofsky principal does not work and that TRNSLTR would be rendered useless by double encryption or by a OTP cypher.
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Michelangelo
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Interesting.
I think that transltr would be possible to make but would need alot of processing power and with no manaul overide switch 
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m0thr4
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Quote:
8549176320abc said:
TRNSLTR whould work for some incription methords including a lot of public encription cyphers but for anyone who has any real desire to keep the info secret it is not difcult to write a code in such a way as to ruin the brute forse attack. one way is to use a one time pad cypher such as that between the wwhite house and the cremlin but this is not practical between Mrs Migins in the pie shop and her boyfriend in California as it needs you to transport 100% sucurly a string of random data to two parties. An alternative is to ues two fiarly simple substitution cyphers one on top of the other, this makes the incription too great for even TRNSLTR to solve quickly.
While I appreciate the irony of you encrypting your post with attrocious and inconsistent spelling and grammar, perhaps you could provide a translated version?
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gotodengo
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Hehehe... does consitently spelling 'atrocious' wrongly count in your favour then?
Never ever correct anyone's grammar or spelling on the web; you're almost sertin to make a mistakke...
To the book. Dreadful. Poorly researched. Inaccurate. Brown seems unaware that the time taken to crack a password with one extra key length (eg 128 as opposed to 127) is TWICE as long. So a key length of 64 bits will not take half the time of a 128 key. The time increases exponentially, not linearly.
<sarcasm>Nice to see a different style of hero/heroine, though.</sarcasm>
Anyone with any knowledge of crypto or mathematics, steer clear.
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higginst
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Hey fellow Kiw! Yeah well I'm 15 and I was impressed when reading the book but after coming on this site I'm not so sure. Should Dan Brown be getting away with small errors even if only a few people notice. His stuff's meant to be accurate. Duh.
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RoseyORyan
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Hey Guys,
Some of the best cryptographers lack the basic rules of spelling and grammar...maybe one reason why GCHQ and NSA have a unusually high number of dyslixecxs!
Rosey 
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Dazzle
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Quote:
higginst said:
Should Dan Brown be getting away with small errors even if only a few people notice. His stuff's meant to be accurate. Duh.
That's the problem, higginst; it's not just a few people. I don't know whether the first two contain rubbish like "THIS IS ALL FACT" at the start but it is, I suppose, what the biggest outrage is and what has opened his books up for criticism...detailed criticism.
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Remarkable
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Why not use quantum teleportation? Surely, that's much more difficult to crack?
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Michelangelo
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Anyone know any good brute forcing programs on the internet?
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Jimmy
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Does anyone know any sites where ppl put their ciphers up to test? Ie post some encrypted text and let ppl "crack" the code? There should be one...
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Darkmasterjoey
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Quote:
Jungberg said:
Heya. I've recently read Digital Fortress, and I were wondering if it really is possible to create a computer such as TRNSLTR able to crack every code using 'brute force'? I am under the impression that it would require enormous processing powers. Would it be possible, and is it feasible that it has already happened? Figured maybe one of you cryptographers (or hackers) could help me find out?
-Jung
Well I'm no expert, I'm not a programmer but I think a computer such as TRANSLTR can't be built on the simple basis that it's just too large to be debugged properly.
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