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Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all) Iceal stranger Reged: 02/15/06 Posts: 17 Loc: Hjørring, Denmark Improvised Munitions       #7392 - 04/10/06 05:07 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Are the guns that the Delta-Force uses, called "IM-weapons" or "Improvised Munitions", real or is it just something mr. Brown made up? If they indeed are real, where can i read more about them? -Iceal -------------------- "On a hot summer night, will you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?" Post Extras:       AAnnAArchy Gifted Procrastinator Reged: 10/20/03 Posts: 643 Loc: Las Vegas Re: Improvised Munitions [Re: Iceal]       #7393 - 04/10/06 05:43 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   They're real & there are books about them. Search your local or internet bookstore. Post Extras:       Iceal stranger Reged: 02/15/06 Posts: 17 Loc: Hjørring, Denmark Re: Improvised Munitions [Re: AAnnAArchy]       #7394 - 04/10/06 06:57 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Can you give me some links? All i can find when i google "Improvised Munitions" is some book about how you can make weapons out of all kinds of stuff... -------------------- "On a hot summer night, will you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?" Post Extras:       AAnnAArchy Gifted Procrastinator Reged: 10/20/03 Posts: 643 Loc: Las Vegas Re: Improvised Munitions [Re: Iceal]       #7401 - 04/10/06 12:47 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Wouldn't those weapons, by definition, be "improvised munitions"? You know, making "weapons out of all kinds of stuff"? I'm no weapons expert, I just did a few searches. Post Extras:       Iceal stranger Reged: 02/15/06 Posts: 17 Loc: Hjørring, Denmark Re: Improvised Munitions [Re: AAnnAArchy]       #7410 - 04/11/06 10:08 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Yes, the weapons in the book i talked about is improvised munitions, but im talking about links about rifles that shoots ice-bullits made from snow, and glass-bullits made from molten sand. -Iceal -------------------- "On a hot summer night, will you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?" Post Extras:       Sephia Supreme Goddess Reged: 11/28/03 Posts: 876 Loc: MA, USA Re: Improvised Munitions [Re: Iceal]       #7414 - 04/11/06 11:55 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   all glass is made from melted sand. -------------------- "Your life is yours alone, rise up and live it" ~Terry Goodkind Post Extras:       Iceal stranger Reged: 02/15/06 Posts: 17 Loc: Hjørring, Denmark Re: Improvised Munitions [Re: Sephia]       #7417 - 04/11/06 09:29 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   hello? isn't that what I wrote?? okay maybe it's "and glass-bullits made from MELTED sand" but excuse me for my bad english, i am only 15 and I live in Denmark... -Iceal -------------------- "On a hot summer night, will you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?" Post Extras:       Sephia Supreme Goddess Reged: 11/28/03 Posts: 876 Loc: MA, USA Re: Improvised Munitions [Re: Iceal]       #7418 - 04/11/06 11:45 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   oh. I thought you meant it some kind of particular glass bullets. I mean, if they are glass, why say they are from sand? It's like saying a book made out of paper... (just about) all books are made of it, aren't they? Actually, I'm a bit confused about the concept of glass bullets. For one thing, making them strong enough to withstand being fired is pretty challenging, and even then, the only advantage I can think of is that they won't set off metal detectors. Plastic would do that just as well... -------------------- "Your life is yours alone, rise up and live it" ~Terry Goodkind Post Extras:       Arras enthusiast Reged: 05/24/04 Posts: 263 Loc: B.C., Canada Re: Improvised Munitions [Re: Sephia]       #7419 - 04/12/06 06:31 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I think the point of "improvised munitions" is that the weapon itself forges the ammunition from raw materials. In other words, you'd pour sand into the weapon and it would fuse the sand into glass before firing by exposing the sand to high temperature and pressure in the chamber. It's also likely that these weapons would not be "firearms" in the traditional sense--they'd be more like "slug-throwers" in that they would use something like compressed gas to fire the projectile, rather than gunpowder. They would have relatively low muzzle velocity (necessary to keep the projectile intact, unless producing shotgun-like shrapnel is the intent), short range and limited accuracy, and likely wouldn't be able to take advantage of barrel rifling to give the projectile any spin. Evading metal detectors isn't the object, here (since the weapon itself may well be made of steel in order to be able to contain the heating/cooling and compression mechanisms needed to turn the raw material into usable ammunition). The aim is to produce a weapon that theoretically never runs out of ammo (as long as there's an abundant supply of the raw material), to avoid the age-old problem of having a rifle become useless as anything more than a club when the soldier runs out of ammo. If you can turn sand into glass, or snow into ice, or dirt into clay--and do it fast enough to be practical--then you can operate in the field for extended periods without need for resupply. Post Extras:       Iceal stranger Reged: 02/15/06 Posts: 17 Loc: Hjørring, Denmark Re: Improvised Munitions [Re: Arras]       #7439 - 04/14/06 11:40 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   is it possible to find any pictures of that kind of weapons? -Iceal -------------------- "On a hot summer night, will you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?" Post Extras:       Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all)

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